Trump’s tariffs are not dead yet, with Michael Froman

特朗普的关税尚未消亡,迈克尔·弗罗曼仍在其中。

The Economics Show

2026-02-23

21 分钟
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Shortly after the US Supreme Court ruled Donald Trump’s tariffs were illegal, he hit back. The president vowed to impose a 10% levy on US imports through different means. He raised those duties to 15% the following day. These tariffs – imposed under the Trade Act of 1974, rather than the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA) – are only temporary. But Trump has a range of tariff tools at his disposal. How will he use them? Which of his trading partners will be worse off from these new policy changes? And will US companies that have already paid tariffs get their money back? To discuss all this and more, Soumaya is joined by former US trade representative, and president of the Council on Foreign Relations, Michael Froman. Subscribe to The Economics Show on Apple, Spotify, Pocket Casts or wherever you listen.  Presented by Soumaya Keynes. Produced by Mischa Frankl-Duval. Original music from Breen Turner, and sound design by Sean McGarrity Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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  • Whatever the law says, President Donald Trump is a tariff man.

  • On February 20th, the Supreme Court struck down some of President Trump's tariffs,

  • specifically the ones he applied under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act,

  • fondly known as IEPA.

  • President Donald Trump responded later that day, announcing new tariffs of 10%.

  • Then, just a day later, he posted on Truth Social that the rate would go up to 15%.

  • Why not?

  • Those tariffs expire after 150 days, so in late July.

  • And today, in this emergency episode of The Economics Show,

  • I'm going to ask, where are the tariffs going next?

  • This is The Economics Show with Simeon Keynes.

  • I'm joined by the ideal guest for this particular moment,

  • Mike Froman of the Council of Foreign Relations and former United States Trade Representative.

  • Mike is speaking to me from New York,

  • and I should say that we are recording this at 8pm GMT on Sunday, February 22nd.

  • So timestamp that relative to whatever else comes out from the Trump administration.

  • Okay, Mike, hello.

  • Hello, good to be with you.

  • Okay, so on this show, we always start with a silly question at the beginning,

  • on a scale of 1 to 10.