How to think like a chess pro

像棋王一样思考

Babbage from The Economist

2026-02-18

34 分钟
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How do the world’s best chess players operate? What does the game itself reveal about thinking and memory? In this episode, Jennifer Shahade explains how thinking like a chess champion can help you make better decisions in life. Guests and hosts: - Jennifer Shahade, woman chess grandmaster and author of “Thinking Sideways” - Alok Jha, host of “Babbage” You can watch Alok and Jennifer play their chess game on The Economist's YouTube channel. Topics covered: - Chess - Cognitive science - Artificial intelligence Transcripts of our podcasts are available via economist.com/podcasts. Listen to what matters most, from global politics and business to science and technology—subscribe to Economist Podcasts+. For more information about how to access Economist Podcasts+, please visit our FAQs page or watch our video explaining how to link your account.
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  • The Economist.

  • Right, please just tell us your name and what you do.

  • I'm Jennifer Shahadi and I am a chess player, poker pro and author.

  • When I sat down to record this week's podcast,

  • I found myself in an unusual and I have to say, quite uncomfortable.

  • position now we're sitting in front of a chessboard and We're gonna play a chess game.

  • I know the rules Jennifer I'm telling you this you better be careful because

  • you know I've not played regularly until the age of about seven

  • But I don't really know loads about chess.

  • I have to say I know the rules I can play a game

  • But I'm not sure I know anything about the strategy stuff.

  • So could you you might need to be a bit gentle with me?

  • Okay, well, I played another game today and it lasted four moves.

  • So I have feeling you're gonna be

  • Jennifer Shahadi is a women's chess grandmaster.

  • And she's twice won America's national championship.

  • So you can probably imagine how this game is going to go.

  • I'm going to make this move.

  • OK, this is quite a bad move, in fact.

  • And the reason it's... Tell me what you think.