2026-02-19
40 分钟I'm Dan Kurtz-Phelan, and this is The Foreign Affairs Interview.
You know, the paradox is, on the one hand, you have the allies sort of saying,
this is a rift, you guys don't want to be our friends anymore.
But also, actually, we do want to be your friends.
We do want to have that trading relationship.
A year into Donald Trump's second term, America's allies on both sides of the Atlantic
seem to have recognized that they need a new strategy for this age of rupture,
as Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney called it.
Trump's grab for Greenland, his tit-for-tat tariffs on Canada, his approach to Ukraine...
all have opened up rifts between the United States and many of its closest partners.
Chrystia Freeland has for years been on the front lines of the battle for the future of the alliance,
as Canada's Foreign Minister, Deputy Prime Minister, and Finance Minister.
Roles in which she went head-to-head with the Trump administration on a host of fraught issues.
She recently left the Canadian government to serve as a volunteer advisor to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy.
As much as Freeland sees the cracks in the relationship,
she still stresses the imperative of making the alliance work despite them.
We spoke on the sidelines of the Munich Security Conference on February 15th
about how to negotiate with Trump, about what Ukraine can offer Europe and the United States,
and why American allies must rethink their approach to this moment.
Chrystia, thank you so much for doing this.