‘Thugs’: The Moderate Democrat Railing Against ICE

《暴徒》:温和民主党人对ICE的激烈抨击

The Daily

2026-02-19

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Senator Catherine Cortez Masto of Nevada is nobody’s idea of a partisan firebrand. She’s a moderate, swing-state Democrat with a résumé steeped in law enforcement — all of which makes her an unlikely leader of the Democratic-led shutdown of the Department of Homeland Security, which has now entered its sixth day. But over the past few months, Senator Cortez Masto said she was horrified by the conduct of federal immigration enforcement agents in her own state and across the country. By last week, she and many of her Democratic colleagues in the Senate decided to act on their outrage. In an interview with her on “The Daily,” Senator Cortez Masto talks about why she decided to support withholding homeland security funding, the political perils for her party in blocking that funding and why she believes most Americans support the strategy. Guest: Catherine Cortez Masto of Nevada Background reading:  Democrats and the White House traded offers, but a deal to reopen the Department of Homeland Security remained elusive.A polling memo circulated among centrist senators urged Democrats to talk tougher on crime, while noting an opportunity for the party to appeal to voters with criticism of ICE.Photo: Eric Lee for The New York Times For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday.  Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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  • Today marks the sixth day of an unusual government shutdown in which Democrats have withheld funding to a single federal agency,

  • the Department of Homeland Security,

  • in order to force President Trump to change how thousands of its agents enforce immigration laws.

  • Today, my conversation with an unlikely leader of the Democratic strategy,

  • Senator Catherine Cortez Masto of Nevada.

  • It's Thursday.

  • February 19.

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