Gabriel Pogrund speaks out on Labour Together scandal

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  Labour activists paid for smear campaign against journalists.

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  The whole of the Labour governance is an absolute cesspit.

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  It's the kind of thing you'd expect in Putin's Kremlin.

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  And I think we need to know the guilty man.

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  And if they're in government, they should be fired.

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  The journalists in question here, I think, are second to none in the investigative work they do,

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  but causes problems for us, but that is their job.

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  We were all lumped together as essentially useful idiots for Russia in this report.

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  You know what it's like as a journalist if someone damages your reputation,

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  it could be career-ending, couldn't it?

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  I didn't know anything about this investigation, and it absolutely needs to be looked into,

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  so the Cabinet Office will be establishing the facts.

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  Welcome to the State of It, the political podcast from The Times and The Sunday Times.

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  that takes you inside the rooms where it happens in Westminster every single week.

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  I'm Patrick Maguire, Chief Political Commentator for The Times.

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  And I'm Gabriel Pogrand, Whitehall Editor at The Sunday Times.

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  Now, it's just me and Gabriel this week.

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  So we are going to talk about the only story we can talk about, which is,

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  of course, the launch of Rupert Lowe's new political party, Restore Britain.

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  No.

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