I got in the water in the very early morning before the sun had risen and the water was pitch black.
I started swimming and I felt the water hollowing out around me and felt like something really big was swimming below.
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This week, on Today Explained Saturday, I sit down with Illinois Governor J.B.
Pritzker, a billionaire, one of the most vocal Democratic governors in the country right now,
and some of the Trump administration clearly has on its mind.
We talked about his fight against ICE operations in his state,
but they'll do
if Trump actually invokes the Insurrection Act and deploys troops ahead of the midterm elections.
And where do Democrats go from here?
Because let's be real, the party is still searching for answers.
And yes, I asked him the obvious question, too.
Are you going to run for president?
You'll want to hear what he has to say.
So let's dig into it.
Governor Pritzker, thank you for joining us.
Great to be with you instead.
I want to dig into everything from kind of the way Illinois has led on pushing back against the Trump administration,