2026-02-11
30 分钟Our country has voted decisively for change.
This lack of trust can only be healed by actions, not words.
I am clear that I have to do what's right for my country, Scotland.
The distraction needs to end and the leadership in Downing Street has to change.
I'm happy to be held to account for my messages.
I'm also happy to be held to account for judgement,
but what I won't ever tolerate is that kind of smear and innuendo.
You have given us a clear mandate and we will use it to deliver change,
to restore service and respect to politics, tread more lightly on your lives and unite our country.
Welcome to this week's episode of The State of It,
the podcast that promises to take you inside the room where it happens.
I'm Stephen Swinford, the police cladger at The Times.
I'm Patrick McGuire, chief police commentator for The Times.
And I'm Gabriel Pogrand, white fool editor at The Sunday Times.
And look, just to kick off, there has been a lot happening.
We sit here the morning after the night before, effectively, all slightly agog.
And what has just happened, Starmer has survived a full frontal attempt to remove him from office.
Feels like he might be a bit stronger.
So we're going to talk about two things today.
We're going to talk about one.