Hello, and welcome to Forever 35, a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves.
I'm Dori Shafir.
And I'm Elise Hupe, and we're just two friends who like to talk a lot about serums.
Welcome to the show.
Today, we have a very special guest that only Elise interviewed.
Yes.
We had some scheduling trouble,
and so I had the pleasure of sitting down with Maya Shankar, who is a cognitive scientist.
and wrote a New York Times bestselling book that just came out fairly recently called The Other Side of Change,
Who We Become When Life Makes Other Plans.
I had a really great time chatting with her door.
I updated Dory after I talked with her just kind of to catch up because we ended up talking.
We had to reschedule a few times.
We ended up talking on like a Friday afternoon and it sent me with great vibes into the weekend.
I love that.
I just really connected.
Because I don't think we do a lot of interviews like right at the tail end of a Friday.
And I know that for me anyway,
I can often be kind of like eager to just go play tennis or do something else and not be working at my computer anymore.
But it was really a pleasure to have this conversation with Dr.