#2447 - Mike Benz

#2447 - 迈克·本茨

The Joe Rogan Experience

2026-02-04

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  • What a day to have you in here buddy Kid in a candy shop we hacked the government We hacked the government's files evident.

  • I mean this is we have three and a half million files that it feels

  • like we should not have It would have been great to have had Seven years ago in 2019 when this was being litigated,

  • but it's an incredible moment of transparency for how the world works How governments interact with the private sector and funds and it's just really cool to be a part of it What was the holdup?

  • What was the

  • because it seemed like there was a lot of people that did not want these files released Yeah,

  • I thought about this a lot What we have access to now are internal documents from the Justice Department and the FBI that are normally,

  • even though they're not classified,

  • they are part of a criminal investigation and so they're not normally discloseable to the public.

  • It could be the case that it kind of required a congressional bill to force this out.

  • Like when you,

  • if there's a internal investigation and it's not a part of a court document that's entered into evidence.

  • You can't just foia the Justice Department to get dirt on your political enemies

  • because you think that they might be involved in something.

  • Now, I don't know if it could have been done through an executive order around Epstein transparency,

  • around the time of the first binders.

  • Certainly,

  • it looked like there was friction between the president and Thomas Massey over this issue.

  • But I don't I don't know the details of what went down there,

  • but the fact is the bill passed 427 to one in the house.