Welcome to Overthink.
The podcast where two philosophers connect philosophy to your lived experience.
I'm Ellie Anderson.
And I'm David Peña Guzman.
David, everybody gets ill.
I myself, I'm just getting over a recent cold.
You might even still be able to hear it in my voice.
It always sounds better after I'm just getting over a cold,
you know, like you got that sort of cool lower register going on.
And obviously, although that's a very minor illness, Many of us,
including myself, have dealt with more serious illnesses over the course of our lives,
even those of us, also like myself,
who haven't dealt with extremely serious or chronic illness, at least as of this point.
So there's a bit of a strange thing going on when we think about how our society treats illness.
Because even though all of us get sick, it seems like illness is a kind of dirty little secret.
in our society, something we don't like to talk about.
And this is especially the case when it comes to chronic or serious illness.
The philosopher Javi Carell,
whose work we're going to be talking about in detail over the course of the episode today,
makes this point in the beginning of her book, aptly titled, Illness.