Bonus episode: Epstein tried to befriend me

额外剧集:爱泼斯坦试图与我交朋友

World in 10

2026-02-05

28 分钟
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A guest slot to give you a taste of our new podcast, The State of It: USA. Give it a go and please subscribe. His enemies were hoping that Donald Trump would come out badly from the Epstein files, but he hasn't. Gerry argues that the scandal is a parable about modern capitalism, and remembers the time Jeffrey Epstein tried and failed to make friends with him. Katy tells the inside story of her interview with Peter Mandelson. Also, what can we expect when the Clintons testify to the Epstein investigation? And what does President Trump mean when he says "nationalise the vote"? Katy Balls, Washington editor and columnist at The Times and The Sunday Times Gerard Baker, columnist at The Times and editor at large at The Wall Street Journal Producer: Euan Dawtrey Executive producer: Molly Guinness Email us: thestateofit@thetimes.co.uk This podcast was brought to you thanks to subscribers of The Times and The Sunday Times. To enjoy unlimited digital access to all our journalism subscribe here. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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  • The State of It USA has now launched.

  • That's with my brilliant colleague Katie Balls in Washington and Jerry Baker in New York.

  • And I urge you all to listen.

  • Hello and welcome to the State of It USA, the podcast with the same take on US politics.

  • I'm Jerry Beaker, editor at Large The Wall Street Journal and Times columnist here in New York City.

  • And I'm Katie Balls, Washington editor and columnist for The Times and Sunday Times.

  • And I think it's fair to say that we try to give a...

  • transatlantic view on this extraordinary, extraordinary events here in the United States.

  • And I don't think probably we've had a more transatlantic story than you could possibly ever imagine.

  • And the story that's broken in the last few days around,

  • of course, Lord, formerly Lord, now just plain old Peter Mandelson.

  • You'll have seen all the extraordinary stuff about leaking cabinet secrets to his dear friend Jeffrey Epstein in extraordinary ways.

  • We're going to try and understand the lesson here, what it tells us about politics,

  • what it tells us about the world economy, if you like,

  • and what it tells us about the way the world works.

  • Katie Balls really had quite a scoop in the course of the last week

  • as she actually interviewed Peter Mandelson both before and after immediately before and immediately after these extraordinary revelations.

  • Yeah, it's a slightly surreal couple of weeks thinking back on it.

  • I've been talking to him about a sit-down interview really going into what had happened and we eventually agreed that I would head to Wiltshire and I was already back in the UK to interview the speaker,

  • Mike Johnson, then to go to Davos.