Strait-talking: the Taiwanese politician who wants to meet Xi Jinping

国民党新掌门郑丽文

Drum Tower

2026-02-03

38 分钟
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As China ramps up military drills around Taiwan and American support for the island appears to be wavering, Taiwan’s opposition leader is arguing for closer ties with the mainland. Cheng Li-wun sits down with Drum Tower to explain why. Hosts: Jeremy Page, The Economist’s China chief correspondent and Sarah Wu, our China correspondent. Guest: Cheng Li-wun, chair of the Kuomintang (KMT), Taiwan's largest opposition party. Transcripts of our podcasts are available via economist.com/podcasts. Listen to what matters most, from global politics and business to science and technology—subscribe to Economist Podcasts+. For more information about how to access Economist Podcasts+, please visit our FAQs page or watch our video explaining how to link your account.
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  • The Economist.

  • This is Zheng Li-wun, the new leader of the Kuomintang, Taiwan's main opposition party.

  • In the four months since taking charge, Zheng has sent shockwaves through Taiwan's political establishment.

  • She's told Taiwanese people they should accept that they are in fact Chinese,

  • she's spearheading efforts to block a rise in defense spending,

  • Her election comes at a critical moment for Taiwan.

  • As Beijing steps up military drills in the Taiwan Strait,

  • and concerns grow that US support for Taiwan might be faltering.

  • Zheng is no stranger to political risk-taking, but she's now making her biggest gamble yet.

  • I certainly hope to begin exchanges and dialogue with the other side.

  • I'm Sarah Wu, The Economist's China correspondent in Beijing.

  • And I'm Jeremy Page, The Economist's Chief China correspondent, based in Taipei.

  • And this week, we're bringing you an interview with Taiwan's outspoken opposition leader,

  • and asking if Zheng Li-wun can bring the Kuomintang back to power

  • and engineer a reconciliation with Beijing.

  • This is Drum Tower. From The Economist.

  • Listeners can't see this Jeremy, but you're not in your usual recording spot today.

  • That's right, I am in a somewhat nondescript airport hotel in Frankfurt because I am en route to the Arctic.

  • Obviously, no direct flights from Taipei to Tromsø where I'm heading, so I had to stop off in Frankfurt.

  • I am curious what your suitcase looks like.