Is the ICE Crackdown Finally Backfiring on Trump?

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  Well, Michelle, I am in New Hampshire, whereas we record as a balmy six degrees,

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  which, believe it or not, is warmer than it was in...

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  parts of the time when I was in Nashville and warmer than it's been in parts of Chicago.

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