How ICE entered its most aggressive era — and what comes next

美国移民海关执法局如何步入最激进的时代——以及接下来会发生什么

Apple News In Conversation

2026-01-30

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Since President Trump took office just over a year ago, federal immigration enforcement has substantially expanded — nowhere more visibly than in Minneapolis, Minnesota, where federal officers have killed two American citizens, Renee Good and Alex Pretti. Widespread protests, scrutiny of ICE operations, and questions about accountability have intensified in recent weeks. Caitlin Dickerson, staff writer for The Atlantic, sat down with Apple News In Conversation host Shumita Basu to discuss what’s happening inside ICE today — and what these latest developments could mean going forward. Listen to the full interview on Apple Podcasts.
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  • This is In Conversation from Apple News.

  • I'm Shamita Basu.

  • Today, inside ICE's rapid expansion and where it could go from here.

  • Since President Trump took office just over a year ago,

  • Federal immigration enforcement has substantially expanded,

  • with a significantly larger budget and thousands of agents deployed in aggressive operations in cities across the U.S.

  • Nowhere has that escalation been more visible than in Minneapolis,

  • where federal officers killed two American citizens in January,

  • Renee Good and Alex Pretty, in separate incidents, amplifying already intense public outcry.

  • Although the Trump administration has been quick to defend the actions of federal agents in previous violent incidents,

  • ruling out excessive use of force even before investigations are conducted,

  • this week, Trump struck a somewhat different tone when asked by Fox News host,

  • Will Cain, about Freddie's death.

  • Well, I think the whole thing is terrible.

  • I don't like the fact that he was carrying a gun that was fully loaded and he had two magazines with him.

  • And it's pretty unusual.

  • But Nobody knows when they saw the gun, how they saw the gun, everything else.

  • The bottom line was terrible.

  • That slight shift in rhetoric was accompanied by a change in leadership.

  • The administration removed U.S.