Will India Take America’s Side Against China?

印度是否会站在美国一边对抗中国?

The Foreign Affairs Interview

2023-09-21

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Building closer ties with India has become a top priority for U.S. foreign policy. In June, the White House hosted Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi for a lavish state dinner. The thinking is that India will be a key U.S. partner in its competition with China. But is Washington making the wrong assumptions about India? How far do the two countries’ interests diverge when it comes to Beijing? Ashley Tellis has been one of the closest observers and shapers of the U.S.-Indian relationship. He served in senior positions in the U.S. embassy in New Delhi and on the National Security Council under President George W. Bush. Today, he is the Tata Chair for Strategic Affairs and a Senior Fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. In an interview earlier this month, Tellis warned that Washington needs to be more clear-eyed about Indian interests—understanding that they do not always align with those of the United States. You can find transcripts and more episodes of The Foreign Affairs Interview at https://www.foreignaffairs.com/podcasts/foreign-affairs-interview.
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  • I'm Dan Kurtz-Valen, and this is the Foreign Affairs Interview.

  • The arrival of multi-polarity essentially means the diminution of US power,

  • the diminution of American primacy, and the erasure of Americanism.

  • And India is pushing in the direction of trying to create that world.

  • Building closer ties with India has become a top priority for US foreign policy.

  • But is Washington making the wrong assumptions about India?

  • Will the two countries' interests come into conflict even when it comes to China?

  • Ashley Tellis has been one of the closest observers and shapers of the U.S.-India relationship.

  • He served in senior positions in the U.S.

  • Embassy in New Delhi and on the National Security Council under George W.

  • Bush.

  • When we spoke earlier this month,

  • Tellis warned that Washington needs to be more clear-eyed about Indian interests,

  • understanding that they do not always align with those of the United States.

  • Ashley, thanks for doing this and for your recent essay on the United States and India,

  • which we published in Foreign Affairs in the spring.

  • Absolutely a pleasure, Dan.

  • Pleasure to be with you again.

  • So your most recent piece for Foreign Affairs is one that, as in the past couple months,

  • had a huge influence on broader debate,