2023-11-16
27 分钟I'm Dan Kurtz-Valen, and this is the Foreign Affairs Interview.
What we know from this conflict from the get-go is violence only breeds more violence.
If violence was going to solve this conflict, it would have been solved by now, a long time ago.
As the war in Gaza continues, the question of Hamas' future has become paramount.
But it has also raised questions about the past years of Hamas' rule in Gaza.
and especially its support among Palestinians.
Amine Jamal is dean of the Princeton School of Public and International Affairs and co-founder of Arab Barometer,
which conducts public opinion research across the Arab world.
Her most recent survey of Palestinian public opinion wrapped up on October 6,
the eve of Hamas' attack.
As she wrote in a recent piece for Foreign Affairs,
the argument that the entire population of Gaza can be held responsible for Hamas' actions is quickly discredited when one looks at the facts.
Emily,
thank you so much
for joining me today and for the fascinating and really revelatory piece that you wrote for Foreign Affairs a few weeks ago.
Thank you so much, Dan.
It's a real pleasure to be with you.
So let's start with the really astonishing polling your team at Arab Barometer was doing in the West Bank in Gaza,
really up until literally the eve of Hamas's attacks on October 7th.
What were you looking for and what did you find regarding Palestinian views of Hamas,