Is Anyone Still Afraid of the United States?

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  I'm Dan Kurtz-Valen, and this is the Foreign Affairs Interview.

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  Last fall, Bob Gates, the former Secretary of Defense,

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  took to the pages of foreign affairs to issue a warning.

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  With America facing the most dangerous geopolitical landscape in decades,

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  dysfunction in Washington threatened to turn that danger into disaster.

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  Today, Russia and China are testing the international order.

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  Iranian proxies are attacking U.S.

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  forces on a daily basis.

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  And as Gates writes, at the very moment that events demand a strong and coherent response,

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  America cannot provide one.

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  Gates worries that such dysfunction at home could prompt America's foes to make risky bets,

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  with catastrophic consequences for both the country and the world.

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  Secretary Gates,

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  thank you for the trenchant essay on the dysfunctional superpower you brought for our November-December issue and

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  for joining me today.

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  My pleasure.

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  So I want to start with something in the headlines that seems like such a stark demonstration of the point that drove your recent piece were at a moment when it seems increasingly likely that the U.S.

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  will not pass an additional assistance package for Ukraine given congressional dysfunction.

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  As you see it,

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  what will the consequences of not passing that package be for both the war in Ukraine and for American leadership in the world?

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