I'm Dan Kurtz-Falen, and this is the Foreign Affairs Interview.
It's clear that NATO and the US alliance system in Asia,
they're not effective right now at managing two of the major conflicts,
conflict in the Middle East and the conflict in between Russia and Ukraine.
So China has an opening to say, I have something better,
or I have something different that ought to be considered.
Chinese leader Xi Jinping has a very clear vision for a new world order.
And although the United States may disagree with that vision,
it should not dismiss it, argues Elizabeth Economy in a new piece for Foreign Affairs.
Economy is one of the foremost experts on China in the United States.
She is a senior fellow at Stanford University's Hoover Institution,
and until recently she served as the senior advisor for China at the Commerce Department.
Economy stresses that if the United States wants to outcompete China,
it needs to offer its own vision for a new world order.
It cannot simply defend an unpopular status quo.
Liz, thank you so much for joining me.
My pleasure.
It's great to be here with you, Dan.
Let me start with your recent essay.
It was called China's Alternative Order.