How Will the World Navigate Trump’s Return?

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  I'm Dan Kurtz-Valen, and this is the Foreign Affairs interview.

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  If you want to have a productive relationship with Trump, you need to win his respect.

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  And you're not going to win his respect by just being another sicker fan.

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  I see Mr.

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  Trump not as an aberration, but perhaps as a return to the norm.

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  With Donald Trump about to return to the White House,

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  leaders around the world are bracing for what could be a significant realignment in American foreign policy and trying to repair their own country's response.

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  In a special two-part episode,

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  I spoke to two policymakers who have grappled directly with the disruption that may come in Trump 2.0.

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  Malcolm Turnbull, who was Australia's prime minister during Trump's first term,

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  shares his lessons about how leaders can most effectively engage the new administration,

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  and Billahari Kausakan, one of Singapore's most seasoned diplomats and analysts,

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  considers what Trump's return will mean for Asia.

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  Together,

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  these conversations offer a window into how global leaders are approaching a period of potential turmoil and an unvarnished guide to power politics in an era of American disruption.

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  Prime Minister Turnbull,

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  thank you

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  for joining me and thank you for the piece you wrote in Foreign Affairs several months before the US election on how the rest of the world should deal with Donald Trump drawing on your own experience,

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  doing so last time around.

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  I know it's being read closely in a lot of capitals these days.

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