How to make social risks pay off (w/ Ben Swire)

如何让社会风险转化为收益(与本·斯威尔对谈)

How to Be a Better Human

2026-01-26

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Many company cultures can feel stagnant and uninspiring, says designer Ben Swire, whose job is to help people take creative risks. Ben shares why icebreakers, compliments, and competitive bonding games can undermine workplace camaraderie. Later Ben shares how he finds success leaning into creativity and provides five activities for more meaningful connections. Host & Guest Chris Duffy (Instagram: @chrisiduffy | https://chrisduffycomedy.com/) Ben Swire (Instagram: @now.and.ben | Website: https://www.benjaminswire.com/)  Links Humor Me by Chris Duffy: https://t.ted.com/ZGuYfcL Safe Danger by Ben Swire (https://www.amazon.com/Safe-Danger-Unexpected-Connection-Innovation/dp/0306833824/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0) https://www.makebelieveworks.com/ Follow TED!  X: https://www.twitter.com/TEDTalks Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ted Facebook: https://facebook.com/TED LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/ted-conferences TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tedtoks  Podcasts: https://www.ted.com/podcasts For the full text transcript, visit go.ted.com/BHTranscripts Learn more about our flagship conference happening this April at attend.ted.com/podcast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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  • You're listening to How to Be a Better Human.

  • I'm your host, Chris Duffy.

  • This January on the podcast,

  • we've been thinking about different ways to bring more laughter and humor into our lives,

  • inspired by my new book, Humor Me, which is out now.

  • And this week, we're going to talk about taking creative risks.

  • Now, risk-taking is a big part of finding the funny,

  • but it's also a really big part of coming up with any sort of new,

  • interesting idea or innovation,

  • or also just succeeding in business or as an artist or just living a life that's not totally boring and predictable.

  • If you want to do any of those things, you need to get comfortable with some level of risk.

  • The problem is taking risks is so uncomfortable.

  • I hate risks.

  • I wish I could just be safe and secure and cozy all the time instead.

  • But as today's guest, the designer Ben Swyer is going to tell us that's not a long term solution.

  • That's not something that you actually want when you think about the consequences.

  • Here's a clip from his new book, Safe Danger,

  • about how creative risks can lead to deeper connection, innovation, and a lot more fun in our lives.

  • Before we begin, I need to risk telling you something.

  • It may sound like exactly the wrong thing for the author of a book about creative activities to admit,