2026-01-26
9 分钟NPR.
This is The Indicator from Planet Money.
I'm Darian Woods and today I'm joined by Betsy Jolles, NPR's regular contributor from Pakistan.
Thanks for joining us Betsy.
Glad to be here, Darian.
So you've been reporting from Pakistan for several years now,
which means you've seen some major economic bumps, including a near default in 2023.
That was a recent low point for sure,
and it came just before a bailout from the International Monetary Fund,
which is a serial lender to Pakistan.
Pakistan's economy has recovered somewhat since then,
but there are still some major structural issues,
and one of them is seriously low tax collection.
Ah, yes, taxes.
A thorn in the side of Pakistan's economy and in the side of every worker.
That's definitely how Pakistanis feel,
so millions of people here just opt out of paying income taxes entirely,
and the country's been trying to change that so it doesn't need to constantly borrow from the IMF.
Of course, Pakistan has its own version of the IRS which tracks incomes,
but it's not that simple or effective.