'The Interview': Chloé Zhao Is Yearning to Know How to Love

《访谈》:赵婷渴望了解如何去爱

The Daily

2026-01-24

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The “Hamnet” director on trying to overcome her deepest fears — and open her heart. Thoughts? Email us at theinterview@nytimes.comWatch our show on YouTube: youtube.com/@TheInterviewPodcastFor transcripts and more, visit: nytimes.com/theinterview  Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.
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  • From The New York Times, this is the interview.

  • I'm David Marchese.

  • Chloe Zhao is an anomaly.

  • At only 43, with just five feature films under her belt,

  • she's already established herself as one of cinema's most distinctive and distinguished directors.

  • And she's done it at a time when the movie business is increasingly averse to artistic risk and originality,

  • qualities on display in all her work.

  • She started with independent film, including the sparsely poetic Neo-Western Nomadland,

  • which won Academy Awards for Best Picture and for Zhao Best Director.

  • She then tried her hand at an ambitious mega-budget Marvel movie, Eternals.

  • And her latest is Last Fall's heart-wrenching drama Hamnet,