The era of the Small Giant (Interview)

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  My friends will come back this is the change

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  while we feature the hackers the leaders and those Living in this crazy world we're in.

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  Can you believe it?

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  Yeah, Damien Tanner's back on the show after 17 years Wow Okay, some backstory.

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  Damian Tanner, founder of Pusher, now building Layer Code.

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  He returned to the podcast, technically officially for the first time, but he's sponsored the show.

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  He was one of our very first sponsors of this podcast, 17 years ago, almost, I want to say.

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  I'm estimating, but it's pretty close to that.

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  I think that's so cool.

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  So he's back officially talking about the seismic shift happening right now in software development.

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  I know you're feeling it.

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  I'm feeling it.

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  Everyone's feeling it.

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  So from first time sponsor the podcast to a frontline builder in the AI agent era Damian shares raw insights on why SAS is dying,

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  why Coderview is becoming a bottleneck, maybe nonexistent,

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  and how small teams can build giant things.

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  A massive thank you to our friends, our partners, our sponsor.

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  Yes, talking about fly.io, the home of changelaw.com.

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  Love fly, and you should too, launch a Sprite,

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  launch a fly machine, launch an app, launch whatever on fly.

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