2022-05-28
38 分钟So Glenn Greenwald, I met Tai Ebi, folks.
So by way of introduction, I want to just sort of tell the story of how this panel happened.
It arose out of almost a throwaway comment that Jason made on episode of the pod where he was talking about lining up speakers for this event.
And he said that he was having a hard time getting liberals.
And all he could find were, like, right-wingers, like Glenn Greenwald and Matt Taibi.
And in terms of just to explain their backgrounds a little bit, you know, Matt used to be the,
they're both independent journalists who write phenomenal columns on sub-stack,
and all of you should check it out and subscribe.
And by the way,
they also do call-in shows on a phenomenal podcasting platform that you should all check out.
But Matt was sort of like the left-wing firebrand,
sort of populist firebrand on writing
for Rolling Stone who back in 2009 was asking the question why the people who caused the great financial crisis,
why no one was going to jail.
And Glenn, you know,
broke this Snowden story about how the government was engaging in mass surveillance on all of us and raising questions about the infringement of our civil liberties.
So, you know,
both these guys have I'd say well-established Bonafide days used to be considered left-wing sort of liberal Bonafide days,
but now today somehow they've been read out of what you would call liberalism today.
And so that comment that Jason made sort of,