Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

赢得人工智能竞赛第四部分:斯科特·贝森特、霍华德·卢特尼克、克里斯·赖特和道格·伯格姆

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

2025-07-24

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(0:00) Scott Bessent, Treasury Secretary (17:44) Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior and Chris Wright, Energy Secretary (35:11) Howard Lutnick, Commerce Secretary Thanks to our partners for making this happen: NYSE : https://www.nyse.com Visa: https://usa.visa.com Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect
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  • Secretary Besant, it's wonderful to see you.

  • Before we maybe deep dive into AI, do you want to give us the high-level update on the 3.3.3 plan?

  • How are things going?

  • You had an incredible clip, by the way, with Maria Bartiromo,

  • where you talked about some of the things that were happening economically.

  • Maybe just level-set everybody on what's going on.

  • So just for good framing, during the campaign, I had 333 plan.

  • I think it's microphones off.

  • Can we get the microphone on for Scott?

  • Test test.

  • There it is.

  • Okay, good.

  • So I had a plan that I called 333 and the idea was to get the budget deficit which was running about 6.7% of GDP under the Biden administration.

  • Highest that we'd ever had when we Weren't at war or in a recession down to three percent three plus percent economic growth on a persistent basis and to create three million more barrels of energy equivalent so oil and gas Before President Trump leaves office and look we're full speed ahead We had the first June was the first positive June for the Treasury

  • since 2015,

  • we actually had a surplus.

  • And we did that in a good way.

  • We took in more revenues, some from tariffs, and we brought down spending.

  • And when I think about what we can do here,

  • that what I'm really excited about is the idea with AI that we can go back to the paradigm When I was younger in the 90s,