David Deutsch - AI, America, Fun, & Bayes

大卫·德施——人工智能、美国、乐趣与贝叶斯

Dwarkesh Podcast

2022-01-31

1 小时 24 分钟
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David Deutsch is the founder of the field of quantum computing and the author The Beginning of Infinity and The Fabric of Reality. Read me contra David on AI. Watch on YouTube. Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or any other podcast platform. Read the full transcript with helpful links here. Follow David on Twitter. Follow me on Twitter for updates on future podcasts. Timestamps (0:00:00) - Will AIs be smarter than humans?  (0:06:34) - Are intelligence differences immutable / heritable? (0:20:13) - IQ correletation of twins seperated at birth (0:27:12) - Do animals have bounded creativity? (0:33:32) - How powerful can narrow AIs be? (0:36:59) - Could you implant thoughts in VR? (0:38:49) - Can you simulate the whole universe? (0:41:23) - Are some interesting problems insoluble? (0:44:59) - Does America fail Popper's Criterion? (0:50:01) - Does finite matter mean there's no beginning of infinity? (0:53:16) - The Great Stagnation (0:55:34) - Changes in epistemic status is Popperianism (0:59:29) - Open ended science vs gain of function (1:02:54) - Contra Tyler Cowen on civilizational lifespan (1:07:20) - Fun criterion (1:14:16) - Does AGI through evolution require suffering? (1:18:01) - Would David enter the Experience Machine? (1:20:09) - (Against) Advice for young people Get full access to Dwarkesh Podcast at www.dwarkesh.com/subscribe
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  • Okay, today I'm speaking with David Deusch.

  • Now this is a conversation that I've been eagerly wanting to have for years.

  • So this is very exciting for me.

  • So first let's talk about AI.

  • Can you briefly explain why you anticipate that AIs will be no more fundamentally intelligent than humans?

  • I suppose you mean AGI's.

  • Yes.

  • And by fundamentally intelligent,

  • I suppose you mean capable of all the same types of cognition as humans are in principle.

  • So that would include doing science and doing art and in principle also falling in love and being good and being evil and all that.

  • So the reason it, the reason is twofold and one half is about computation hardware,

  • computation hardware, and the other is about software.

  • So if we take the hardware, we know that our brains are Turing complete.

  • bits of hardware and therefore can exhibit the functionality of running any computable function program for any computable function.

  • Now, when I say any, I don't really mean any because you and I sitting here,

  • we're having conversation and we could say, we could have any conversation.

  • Well,

  • We can assume that maybe in a hundred years time we'll both be dead and therefore the number of conversations we could have is strictly limited.

  • And also some conversations depend on speed of computation.

  • So, you know, if we're going to be solving the traveling salesman problem.