2022-11-28
57 分钟Okay, today I have the pleasure of speaking with Professor Edward Glazer,
who is the chair of the Harvard Department of Economics,
and he is the author of the best books and papers about cities.
Professor Glazer, thanks for coming on The Lunar Society.
Oh, thank you so much for having me on,
especially given the Lunar Society pays homage to one of my favorite moments in urban innovation in Birmingham in the 18th century.
Oh, wow.
I didn't even catch that theme.
But actually, yeah, that's a great title.
My first question, what advice should you give to Elon Musk about building the first cities on Mars?
That's a great question.
I mean, I think in fact demand for urbanism in Mars is going to be relatively limited.
Cities are always shaped by the transportation costs that are dominant in the era in which they're created.
That both determines the sort of micro shape of the city and determines its macro futures.
So cities on Mars are of course going to be limited by the likely to be prohibitive cost of traveling back and forth to the mother to the mother planet.
But we also have to understand what cars are people going to be using on Mars.
I assume these are all going to be Teslas.
I assume that everyone is going to be driving around in some sort of appropriate Tesla on Mars.
So it's going to be a very car-oriented living.
I think probably the best strategy on this is to create a fairly flexible plan,