Nadia Asparouhova — Tech elites, democracy, open source, & philanthropy

纳迪亚·阿斯帕鲁霍娃——科技精英、民主、开源与慈善

Dwarkesh Podcast

2022-12-15

1 小时 22 分钟
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Nadia Asparouhova is currently researching what the new tech elite will look like at nadia.xyz. She is also the author of Working in Public: The Making and Maintenance of Open Source Software. We talk about how: * American philanthropy has changed from Rockefeller to Effective Altruism * SBF represented the Davos elite rather than the Silicon Valley elite, * Open source software reveals the limitations of democratic participation, * & much more. Watch on YouTube. Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or any other podcast platform. Read the full transcript here. Timestamps (0:00:00) - Intro (0:00:26) - SBF was Davos elite (0:09:38) - Gender sociology of philanthropy (0:16:30) - Was Shakespeare an open source project? (0:22:00) - Need for charismatic leaders (0:33:55) - Political reform (0:40:30) - Why didn’t previous wealth booms lead to new philanthropic movements? (0:53:35) - Creating a 10,000 year endowment (0:57:27) - Why do institutions become left wing? (1:02:27) - Impact of billionaire intellectual funding (1:04:12) - Value of intellectuals (1:08:53) - Climate, AI, & Doomerism (1:18:04) - Religious philanthropy Get full access to Dwarkesh Podcast at www.dwarkesh.com/subscribe
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  • you start with this idea that democracy is great and we should have tons of people participating,

  • tons of people participating,

  • and then it turns out that most participation is actually just noise and not that useful.

  • That really squarely puts SPF in the finance crowd much more so than startups or crypto.

  • Founders will always talk about building and startups are so important or whatever.

  • And what are all them doing in their story time?

  • They're reading books, they're reading essays,

  • and then those books and essays influence how they think about stuff.

  • Today, I have the pleasure of talking with Nadia Asparova.

  • She is previously the author of Working in Public,

  • the Making and Maintenance of Open Source Software,

  • and she is currently researching what the new tech elite will look like.

  • Nadia, welcome to the podcast.

  • Thanks for having me.

  • Yeah, okay, so this is a perfect timing, obviously, given what's been happening with SVF.

  • How much do you think SPF was motivated by effective altruism?

  • Where do you place him in the whole dimensionality of idea machines and motivations?

  • Yeah, I mean,

  • I know there's sort of like conflicting accounts going around Like I mean just from my sort of like character character study or looking at SPF It seems pretty clear to me that he is sort of inextricably tied to the concepts of utilitarianism that then motivate effective altruism the difference for me in sort of like where I characterize effective altruism is I think it's much closer to sort of like finance Wall Street elite mindset than it is to startup mindset,

  • even though a lot of people associate effective altruism with tech people.