Daniel Yergin — Oil destroyed Hitler, fracking destroyed Putin

丹尼尔·耶金——石油摧毁了希特勒,页岩气开采摧毁了普京。

Dwarkesh Podcast

2024-09-18

1 小时 27 分钟
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Unless you understand the history of oil, you cannot understand the rise of America, WW1, WW2, secular stagnation, the Middle East, Ukraine, how Xi and Putin think, and basically anything else that's happened since 1860. It was a great honor to interview Daniel Yergin, the Pulitzer Prize winning author of The Prize - the best history of oil ever written (which makes it the best history of the 20th century ever written). Watch on YouTube. Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or any other podcast platform. Read the full transcript here. Follow me on Twitter for updates on future episodes. Sponsors: This episode is brought to you by Stripe, financial infrastructure for the internet. Millions of companies from Anthropic to Amazon use Stripe to accept payments, automate financial processes and grow their revenue. This episode is brought to you by Suno, pioneers in AI-generated music. Suno's technology allows artists to experiment with melodic forms and structures in unprecedented ways. From chart-toppers to avant-garde compositions, Suno is redefining musical creativity. If you're an ML researcher passionate about shaping the future of music, email your resume to dwarkesh@suno.com. If you’re interested in advertising on the podcast, check out this page. Timestamps (00:00:00) – Beginning of the oil industry (00:13:37) – World War I & II (00:25:06) – The Middle East (00:47:04) – Yergin’s conversations with Putin & Modi (01:04:36) – Writing through stories (01:10:26) – The renewable energy transition Get full access to Dwarkesh Podcast at www.dwarkesh.com/subscribe
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  • Today, I have the pleasure to chat with Daniel Juergen.

  • He is literally the world's leading authority on energy.

  • His book, The Prize, won the Pulitzer Prize about the entire history of oil.

  • His most recent book is The New Map, Energy, Climate, and the Clash of Nations.

  • Welcome to the podcast, Dr.

  • Juergen.

  • Glad to be with you.

  • My first question is...

  • A book like The Prize, it's literally a history of the entire 20th century, right?

  • Because everything in the last 150 years involves oil that's happened since then.

  • How does one begin to write a book like that?

  • I think you begin by not realizing what you're doing.

  • I mean, I agreed to do that book and I said I'd do it in two years.

  • It took me seven.

  • And the stories just became so compelling and it became woven in with the history of the 20th century.

  • And the funny thing was that Some years before that,

  • a publisher had flown up from New York to see me when I was teaching at Harvard and said,

  • she had a very interesting idea for a book.

  • And I said, what?

  • And she said, a history of the 20th century.