Why I don’t think AGI is right around the corner

为何我认为通用人工智能(AGI)不会在转角处出现

Dwarkesh Podcast

2025-07-04

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I’ve had a lot of discussions on my podcast where we haggle out timelines to AGI. Some guests think it’s 20 years away - others 2 years. Here’s an audio version of where my thoughts stand as of June 2025. If you want to read the original post, you can check it out here. Get full access to Dwarkesh Podcast at www.dwarkesh.com/subscribe
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  • Okay, this is a narration of a blog post I wrote on June 3,

  • 2025 titled, Why I Don't Think AGI is Right Around the Corner.

  • Quote, Things take longer to happen than you think they will,

  • and then they happen faster than you thought they could.

  • Routiger Dornbush.

  • I've had a lot of discussions on my podcast where we hackle out our timelines to AGI.

  • Some guests think it's 20 years away, others 2 years.

  • Here's where my thoughts lie as of June 2025.

  • Continue learning.

  • Sometimes people say that even if all AI progress totally stopped,

  • the systems of today would still be far more economically transformative than the internet.

  • I disagree.

  • I think that the LLMs of today are magical,

  • but the reason that the Fortune 500 aren't using them to transform their workflows isn't

  • because management is too stodgy.

  • Rather, I think it's genuinely hard to get normal human-like labor out of LLMs.

  • And this has to do with some fundamental capabilities that these models lack.

  • I like to think that I'm AI-forward here at the Thorkesh podcast,

  • and have probably spent on the order of 100 hours trying to build these little LLM tools for my post-production setup.

  • The experience of trying to get these LLMs to be useful has extended my timelines.