2026-01-15
55 分钟I'm Shiloh Brooks.
I'm a professor and CEO, and I believe reading good books makes us better men.
Today, I'm sitting down with Elliot Ackerman.
Elliot is a best-selling author, a contributor to the Free Press,
and a veteran of the Marine Corps and CIA Special Operations.
Catch 22 by Joseph Heller, published in 1961, changed Elliot's life.
Today, I'm asking him why.
This is old school.
Elliott Ackerman, welcome to old school.
Yeah, thanks for having me on, Charlotte.
It's a pleasure to have you.
I've been looking forward to this.
I want to talk to you about Catch-22 today.
This is a novel you selected, said that it changed your life.
When did you first read Catch-22 and how old were you and where did you find that book?
I really first read it and it kind of hit me when I was 26 years old.
I was a Marine First Lieutenant.
I was aboard the USS Iwo Jima.
Israel had invaded Lebanon.
I had just come back from Iraq and we're sitting here in the Mediterranean Sea,