One Fed battle after another

美联储一场又一场的斗争

The Indicator from Planet Money

2026-01-13

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Over the weekend, Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell said the Department of Justice served the Fed with grand jury subpoenas. Powell says it’s all a sham. But the stakes are unprecedented: A potential criminal indictment. Central bank independence. Today on the show, the administration’s case against the Fed. How did we get here? And what comes next? Related episodes: Lisa Cook and the fight for the FedTrump's unprecedented attack on the Fed  A primer on the Federal Reserve's independenceWhy Is The Fed So Boring? For sponsor-free episodes of The Indicator from Planet Money, subscribe to Planet Money+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org. Fact-checking by Sierra Juarez. Music by Drop Electric. Find us: TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, Newsletter. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy
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  • NPR.

  • As loyal indicator listeners almost certainly saw this weekend,

  • Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell posted arguably the most viral front-to-camera video ever in central bank history.

  • Palo revealed that the Fed had been threatened with criminal charges.

  • These charges are ostensibly about renovations to Fed buildings.

  • But Palo was crystal clear with what he believes this investigation is really about.

  • The threat of criminal charges is a consequence of the Federal Reserve setting interest rates based on our best assessment of what will serve the public rather than following the preferences of the President.

  • This is the strongest we've ever heard Jerome Powell speak about President Trump's patterns of attacks on the Fed.

  • He's paid to be boring and not spook the markets.

  • And so over the last year, Powell has been relatively restrained in public.

  • You know, maybe he's a little annoyed, but he sticks to the matters at hand.

  • I'd say, terse.

  • So to drop a weekend video calling out the administration's threats on Fed independence,

  • this is huge.

  • And we're going to get into it.

  • This is the indicator from Planet Money.

  • I'm Whelan Wong.

  • And I'm Darian Woods.

  • Today on the show,

  • what led to the administration's criminal investigation into Fed Chair Jerome Powell?