The New York Times app has all this stuff that you may not have seen.
The way the tabs are at the top with all of the different sections.
I can immediately navigate to something that matches what I'm feeling.
I go to games always.
Doing the mini, doing the wordle.
I love how much content it exposed me to.
Things that I never would have thought to turn to a news app for.
This app is essential.
The New York Times app.
All of the times, all in one place.
Download it now at nytimes.com slash app.
Well, Casey, we've got something different for hard fork listeners today.
We are dropping in a special Tuesday episode,
and this is an episode that we've been working on for a very long time.
We're very excited to bring it to our listeners.
It might be, Kevin,
the first episode in the history of hard fork that took more than one week to make.
In fact, it took more than one year to make.
So more than a year ago, we started chatting with friend of the pod, PJ Vote,
the host of the great search engine podcast, which both of us have been on.