Hi everyone, welcome back to The Insider.
I'm Zanny Minton Beddoes, the Economist's editor-in-chief,
and joining me as always is Ed Carr, my deputy editor and partner in crime.
And today, a man who like me has just arrived back in London from a trip to Israel
where we interviewed Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu.
And what we're going to do in the show today
is really discuss what we made of that interview.
It was a very rare 45-minute interview from one of the most polarizing politicians in the world, I would say.
And joining us to help decipher what we make of him is Anshel Pfeffer, our Jerusalem correspondent.
Anshel wrote a fantastic biography of Netanyahu, not always flattering,
and was in the room yesterday during the interview.
And also joining us is Gregg Carlstrom from Riyadh, our Middle East correspondent.
Gregg has covered the region for many years
and also has as a result covered Mr. Netanyahu for many years.
What I wanted to do actually was to first of all set the tone for this conversation
by getting from each of you what surprised you most because you've all watched it now.
And then we can go on to discuss what to make of it.
But Anshel, let me start with you.
Was there anything that the Prime Minister said that struck you as striking?
Well, this is Netanyahu, the man who has given a hundred thousand interviews over his very long career