Julia Ioffe and Clarissa Ward on Putin, Russia and the Women Fighting For A Better Future (Part One)

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  Welcome to Intelligence Squared, where great minds meet.

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  I'm producer Mia Sorrenti.

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  Today's episode is part one of our recent live event with award-winning journalist Julia Joffey.

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  Joffey joined us at the Kiln Theatre in London to discuss Putin,

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  Russia, and the women fighting for a better future.

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  One of America's most influential voices on Russia-U.S.

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  relations, Joffey has reported on Putin's regime for over 15 years.

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  Her new book, Motherland, which was long-listed for the 2025 National Book Award for non-fiction,

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  tells the stories of the many women who have shaped modern Russia,

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  from feminist revolutionaries to the fearless members of Pussy Riot.

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  A warning that this episode contains some strong language.

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  Let's join our host, Clarissa Ward, CNN, Chief International Correspondent, now with more.

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  Hi, everyone.

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  And thank you so much for, I noticed that the heavens literally opened and it's an absolute deluge.

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  So we appreciate you being here and we will make it well worth your while.

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  I am selfishly,

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  ridiculously excited to be here on stage tonight with Julio Joffi who is a journalist who I've been pretty much obsessed with for I don't know,

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  like 15 years, but we've never actually met in person.

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  I've just sort of fanned girls stalked her on social media.

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  So for those of you who don't know Julia, and I'm assuming most of you do,

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