'The Interview': George Saunders Is No Saint (Despite What You May Have Heard)

《面试》:乔治·桑德斯并非圣人(尽管你可能有所听闻)

The Daily

2026-01-10

52 分钟
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The celebrated author on the challenges of being kind, the benefits of meditation and the reality check of death. Thoughts? Email us at theinterview@nytimes.comWatch our show on YouTube: youtube.com/@TheInterviewPodcastFor transcripts and more, visit: nytimes.com/theinterview  Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.
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  • Christine, have you ever bought something and thought,

  • wow, this product actually made my life better?

  • Totally.

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  • Yeah, but you work here.

  • We both do.

  • We're the hosts of the Wirecutter show from The New York Times.

  • It's our job to research, test, and vet products, and then recommend our favorites.

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  • The Wirecutter show, available wherever you get podcasts.

  • From The New York Times, this is the interview.

  • I'm David Marchese.

  • Last fall,

  • George Saunders was awarded the National Book Foundation's Medal

  • for Distinguished Contribution to American Letters.

  • In the speech introducing him, in addition to a glowing rundown of his literary resume,

  • which includes the 2017 Booker Prize-winning novel, Lincoln in the Vardo,

  • he was also called the ultimate teacher of kindness and craft.

  • Pretty good, right?

  • Well, mostly.