Democratic Senator Mark Kelly can be blunt, particularly on subjects he knows about.
He served decades in the Navy, flying dozens of combat missions.
Also, he's an astronaut.
So he has had a lot to say over the last few months about how the Trump administration has been using the military at home and abroad.
Little of it, positive.
I'm Hannah Rosen.
This is Radio Atlantic.
We could start in a lot of different places with Mark Kelly on the subject of Trump and the U.S.
military, appointing Pete Hegseth as the defense secretary,
actions in Venezuela, but we'll start with this week's news.
The Trump administration saying that using the military to take Greenland is an option.
It would probably be the biggest mistake any president has made in the history of this country.
For us to threaten them, especially with force,
that we're just going to take your stuff We're going to take your territory?
I mean, is that who we've become?
That's Russia.
I mean, we are not that kind of a nation.
Kelly had his own personal run-in with the U.S.
military this week, or at least with Hexeth.
He concerned a video that Kelly made along with five other Democratic lawmakers who had also served in the military or the intelligence community.