2026-01-02
44 分钟Welcome to Intelligence Squared, where great minds meet.
I'm producer Nia Sorrenti.
Today we're bringing you part two of our recent live event with Tim Wu, recorded at Conway Hall.
If you haven't heard part one yet, we recommend jumping back an episode to get up to speed.
But now let's return to the discussion live at Conway Hall in London.
You talk about turning the knobs, turning up the knobs on extraction.
My least favorite phrase in this book, Tim, it's a quote,
you'll be pleased to hear, was from a platform CEO who doesn't talk about turning the knobs.
He calls on his staff to quote, juice the hog.
Oh yeah.
I would ask you what juicing the hog is, Tim,
but I would also invite you to, because that CEO was not the CEO.
of a tech company or a platform that we might recognize here in the UK,
a Google or a Facebook and so on.
That was a housing company.
Yes.
So this is I think one of the worries that I have looking into the future is this sort of idea,
this platformization, this move to these extractive platforms is not limited to online marketplaces.
or Google or search or anything else.
This sounds like it's going into, it's going on to our physical world,