The Birth Keepers: Building an empire – episode four

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  This is The Guardian.

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  Hi, it's Helen here.

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  Today in Focus is taking a little Christmas break so that we can recharge our batteries ready for 2026.

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  While we're off, we're bringing you the latest series of Guardian Investigates.

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  It's presented by reporters Sharon Kahler and Lucy Osborne,

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  and it tells the story of how two influencers made millions radicalising pregnant women around the world.

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  Today, part four.

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  Hi, I'm Shireen Kalle, and I'm Lucy Osborne.

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  You're listening to The Birth Peepers, a new six-part series from The Guardian, Investigates.

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  Just before we start, this series contains references to baby loss and maternal harm.

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  I have a very exciting announcement to make.

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  The official Free Birth Society membership network is now live.

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  We have abandoned mainstream social media and created our own private network,

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  a truly safe space where women can be free to talk about pregnancy, birth, holistic mothering.

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  Within months of the death of Lauren's baby, Journey Moon,

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  and the public backlash against the free birth society that followed,

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  Emily Saldaya took the membership private.

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  We are so proud of this new space and we can't wait to welcome you.

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  Come join us in the fun.

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  Although it was sparked by a terrible tragedy,

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