Hello and welcome to Overthink.
The podcast where two philosophers put ideas in dialogue with everyday life.
I'm Ellie Anderson.
And I'm David Peña Guzman.
I want to give a content warning for this episode.
We are going to be talking at length about rape,
sexual violence, and incest, including some graphic descriptions.
The topic of today's episode is what's known as the Pelico Trial
because the feminist philosopher Manon Garcia has recently written a book.
on this called living with men, reflections on the Pelico trial.
So we will be talking with Manon in just a little bit about the philosophical implications of this particular case.
I know many of our listeners are probably already familiar with this case
as it was pretty high profile earlier in 2025.
However, whether or not you know a bit about it already, David,
you're going to tell us some facts about this so we can have a necessary background before talking about the philosophical dimensions.
Yeah,
and the details are really important not only for us to get a sense of what happened in the trial and the case,
but also
because Manon Garcia's book goes into great detail also about some of these details and interprets them through a philosophical and feminist lens.
The first thing to note about the Pelico Affair, as it's sometimes called in France,