The Birth Keepers: When Emilee met Yolande – episode two

《守护生命者:艾米莉遇见约兰德——第二集》

Today in Focus

2025-12-30

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Who is Emilee Saldaya, the woman behind the Free Birth Society movement? And how did she meet her business partner Yolande Norris-Clark? Do either women have the credentials they are claiming? This is episode two of a year-long investigation by Guardian journalists Sirin Kale and Lucy Osborne. Help support our independent journalism at theguardian.com/infocus
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  • This is The Guardian.

  • Hi, it's Helen here.

  • Today in Focus is taking a little Christmas break so that we can recharge our batteries ready for 2026.

  • While we're off, we're bringing you the latest series of Guardian Investigates.

  • It's presented by reporters Sharon Kahler and Lucy Osborne,

  • and it tells the story of how two influencers made millions radicalising pregnant women around the world.

  • Today, part two.

  • Hi, I'm Shireen Kalle, and I'm Lucy Osborne.

  • You're listening to the Birth Papers, a new six-part series from the Guardian Investigates.

  • Just before we start, this series contains references to baby loss and maternal harm.

  • Before Emily Saldeo was the leader of a self-proclaimed movement,

  • she was Emily Benner, aka Hoop Nasty.

  • There's a video on an old YouTube account posted by Emily in 2010.

  • It's got 500 views, a show reel from her time as a hula-hooper.

  • Emily is dancing on stage in an LA nightclub, gyrating in a hoop under red and blue strobe lights.

  • It feels very naughty.

  • She's wearing a trilby.

  • She's got the fingerless gloves.

  • She's actually pretty good.

  • It's hard to imagine this is the same woman who 15 years later would be hosting this festival on her land in the Blue Ridge Mountains of North Carolina.