Why One Lawyer Resigned When His Firm Caved to Trump: An Update

为何一位律师在律所屈服于特朗普后辞职:最新消息

The Daily

2025-12-29

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This week, The Daily is revisiting some of our favorite episodes of the year and checking in on what has happened in the time since. President Trump has used executive orders to wage war on law firms, specifically targeting those whose lawyers have investigated or sued him, or represented his enemies in court. Michael Barbaro speaks to Thomas Sipp, a lawyer who chose to quit after his firm, Skadden, negotiated a deal to placate the president. Guest: Thomas Sipp, a lawyer who left his firm after it negotiated a deal with Mr. Trump. Background reading:  Listen to the original version of the episode here.Read about how Paul Weiss, a major democratic law firm, ended up bowing to Mr. Trump.Ever since the elite law firms Skadden and Paul Weiss reached deals with the Trump administration, top partners have closed ranks in support of the agreements.Photo: Graham Dickie/The New York Times For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday.  Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.
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  • Hey, it's Michael.

  • This week, the Daily is revisiting some of our favorite episodes this year,

  • listening back and hearing what's happened in the time since they first ran.

  • Today, we return to our conversation with Thomas Sip,

  • the lawyer who quit his job at a prestigious corporate law firm after his bosses gave in to legally dubious demands from President Trump.

  • And we hear how SIP views that moment now, eight months later.

  • It's Monday, December 29th.

  • Thomas, welcome to the daily.

  • Thanks for having me.

  • I'm getting the small sense that this is a nerve wracking experience for you even before it started.

  • I'm just seeing it on your face.

  • Yeah, it definitely is.