The Messy Reality of ‘Made in America’

美国制造的混乱现实

The Daily

2025-12-22

30 分钟
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The construction of a giant factory complex in Arizona was supposed to embody the Trump administration’s ability to bring manufacturing back to the United States. But undertaking big projects is not as simple as it seems. Peter S. Goodman, who writes about the intersection of economics and geopolitics for The New York Times, explains why. Guest: Peter S. Goodman, who covers the global economy for The New York Times. Background reading:  Read about the 18,000 or so reasons that make it so hard to build a chip factory in the United States.Photo: Loren Elliott for The New York Times For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday.  Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.
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  • I'm Deborah Kamen.

  • I'm an investigative reporter at The New York Times.

  • What I do is I look at the people running the real estate industry,

  • who for so many years have been relatively invisible.

  • And the more that I look into it,

  • the more that I find there are people in the real estate industry operating unethically.

  • And their unethical behavior affects every single American.

  • At The New York Times,

  • we're always looking a little bit deeper to help readers better understand the world.

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  • From The New York Times, I'm Michael Labarro.

  • This is The Daily.

  • The construction of a massive factory in Arizona was supposed to embody the Trump administration's ability to bring manufacturing back to the U.S.

  • Instead, as my colleague Peter Goodman found out,

  • it's provided companies around the world with literally 18,000 reasons to think twice about building in America.

  • It's Monday, December 22nd.

  • Peter, good to have you to come into the studio.

  • Delighted.

  • I wonder just to start this conversation.

  • If you can describe this factory that you recently visited to us.