#840: Bill Gurley — Investing in The AI Era, 10 Days in China, and Important Life Lessons from Bob Dylan, Jerry Seinfeld, MrBeast, and More

#840:比尔·古雷利——投资人工智能时代、中国之行10日,以及从鲍勃·迪伦、杰瑞·宋飞、MrBeast等人身上学到的宝贵人生经验

The Tim Ferriss Show

2025-12-18

2 小时 10 分钟
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Bill Gurley (@bgurley) is a general partner at Benchmark, a leading venture capital firm in Silicon Valley. His new book is Runnin’ Down a Dream: How to Thrive in a Career You Actually Love. This episode is brought to you by: Momentous high-quality creatine for cognitive and muscular supportOur Place’s Titanium Always Pan® Pro using nonstick technology that’s coating-free and made without PFAS, otherwise known as “Forever Chemicals”Shopify global commerce platform, providing tools to start, grow, market, and manage a retail businessCoyote the card game​, which I co-created with Exploding Kittens* Timestamps: [00:00:00] Start.[00:01:43] The book that gave Jerry Seinfeld permission to pursue comedy and inspired Runnin’ Down a Dream.[00:03:59] AI bubble or not?[00:06:33] Circular deals and SPV chaos.[00:12:01] Angel investing in the AI era.[00:14:32] Why you should be the most AI-enabled version of yourself, regardless of field.[00:20:47] China deep dive: Ten days, six cities, high-speed trains, and a Xiaomi SU7 factory tour.[00:22:43] Communism misconceptions.[00:25:40] Lei Jun: The Steve Jobs of China.[00:29:17] Jack Ma, ByteDance’s invisible CEO, and the risks of prominence in China.[00:32:11] America vs. China (Lawyers vs. engineers).[00:41:01] Keys for US competitiveness.[00:43:47] Bill is bullish on these countries.[00:47:30] Matthew McConaughey’s “Don’t half ass it” moment.[00:49:45] Runnin’ Down a Dream thesis: Helping people pursue X instead of A, B, or C.[00:51:03] The 80,000-hour question.[00:52:47] The self-learning test.[00:56:58] Bob Dylan as music expeditionary.[01:00:27] Go to the epicenter where the action is.[01:10:56] Danny Meyer’s pivot.[01:13:30] Working for free.[01:19:37] Never too late: Tito Beveridge started Tito’s Vodka at 40.[01:21:51] AI sanity checks.[01:25:59] AI-proof bets.[01:29:13] Sam Hinkie’s Moneyball moment.[01:32:37] Competitive strategy, avoiding false failures, and regret minimalization.[01:43:46] Purpose, Progress, and Prosperity — the P3 Policy Institute.[01:47:18] Regulatory capture explained.[01:51:55] Why the IPO market is broken.[02:01:52] Stablecoins putting Visa and Mastercard on notice.[02:03:40] Hopes for Runnin’ Down a Dream and parting thoughts.* For show notes and past guests on The Tim Ferriss Show, please visit tim.blog/podcast. For deals from sponsors of The Tim Ferriss Show, please visit tim.blog/podcast-sponsors Sign up for Tim’s email newsletter (5-Bullet Friday) at tim.blog/friday. For transcripts of episodes, go to tim.blog/transcripts. Discover Tim’s books: tim.blog/books. Follow Tim: Twitter: twitter.com/tferriss  Instagram: instagram.com/timferriss YouTube: youtube.com/timferriss Facebook: facebook.com/timferriss  LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/timferriss See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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  • Hello, boys and girls, ladies and germs.

  • This is Tim Ferriss.

  • Welcome to another episode of The Tim Ferriss Show,

  • where is my job to deconstruct world-class performers.

  • I interview them to tease out the habits, routines, frameworks, etc.

  • that you can apply to your own lives.

  • My guest today is Bill Gurley.

  • He is a general partner at Benchmark, a leading venture capital firm in Silicon Valley.

  • But...

  • his venture career his career overall spans a lot he is invested in and served on the boards of such companies as next door open table stitch fix uber and zillow he earned his bachelor of science degree in computer science from the university of florida and that is mba from the university of texas at austin he's had lots of other careers but we discussed that in our first episode.

  • We're going to cover a lot more on this one.

  • For more than two decades,

  • Bill has written about technology and other subjects on his popular blog Above the Crowd and on his social media accounts.

  • His new book is Running Down a Dream, How to Thrive in a Career You Actually Love.

  • And we detail exactly what he means by that,

  • including some incredible stories and takeaways that you can apply.

  • You can find him on x at x.com.

  • And without further ado,

  • please enjoy a very wide-ranging conversation with none other than Bill Gurley.

  • Bill, great to see you, man.