What to make of Trump’s mixed-messages on the Iran war

如何看待特朗普关于伊朗战争的模棱两可言论?

The NPR Politics Podcast

2026-06-13

22 分钟
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President Trump sent a lot of mixed messages on the war in Iran this week, starting with imminent peace on Monday, threatening to take control of Kharg Island on Thursday, followed by more imminent peace and then more threats. We discuss what to make of the back-and-forth. This episode: political correspondent Ashley Lopez, political reporter Elena Moore, White House correspondent Franco Ordoñez, and senior national political correspondent Mara Liasson. This podcast was produced by Bria Suggs and edited by Rachel Baye. Our executive producer is Muthoni Muturi. Listen to every episode of the NPR Politics Podcast sponsor-free, unlock access to bonus episodes with more from the NPR Politics team, and support public media when you sign up for The NPR Politics Podcast+ at plus.npr.org/politics. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences. NPR Privacy Policy
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  • South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham.

  • We're negotiating now and they want to make a very good deal.

  • They're willing to give us everything.

  • They're willing to give us no nuclear weapon.

  • And on Wednesday, he seemed to reverse himself.

  • Well, we're going to be attacking them and attacking them very hard.

  • Cut to Thursday morning, he doubled down, threatening to take Carg Island in another social media post before,

  • again, reversing course, both on social media and during an event in the Oval Office.

  • We have a deal that Iran will never have a nuclear weapon,

  • which was the whole purpose of what we had to go through to get this.

  • There's a big, very big thing, but we have a signing.

  • Soon and the documents are in pretty final shape.

  • So we'll see.

  • We'll see.

  • And then this morning he reversed himself again.