93 Rejections, One Revolution: How Indiegogo Changed Crowdfunding Forever

九十三次拒绝,一次革命:Indiegogo如何永远改变众筹格局

How I Built This with Guy Raz

2025-12-15

1 小时 7 分钟
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What happens when three outsiders try to reinvent access to money… during the worst financial crisis in decades? Before Kickstarter. Before GoFundMe. Before crowdfunding became a thing, there was Indiegogo, an idea born from frustration, inequity, and more than 93 rejections from investors. It was a funding platform built not for banks, studios or gatekeepers… but for everybody else. In this episode, co-founders Danae Ringelmann and Slava Rubin reveal the unpolished and often painful story behind Indiegogo — from digging into savings accounts, to fighting over strategy, to grinning and bearing it when their idea was dismissed as “cute.”  You’ll hear how their mission was shaped by loss of parents, financial instability, and a fundamental belief in fairness. How the 2008 crash nearly killed the company before it began. And how in the end, Indiegogo helped spark a massive cultural shift—proving that anyone, anywhere, could bring an idea to life. WHAT YOU’LL LEARN:  How gatekeepers underestimate outsiders’ ideasHow grief and personal history shape entrepreneurial courageHow to recover from 93 “no’s” Why making money matters, but maintaining your values matters even more How co-founder conflict can sharpen (or break) a companyWhy Indiegogo didn’t become Kickstarter — and what founders can learn from thatHow to know when it’s time to walk away from your own company TIMESTAMPS:  0:03:09 - Slava’s childhood, and the deep loss that shaped his worldview 0:07:33 - Danae’s first lesson in leadership… from her dad’s moving business 0:10:18 - “Hollywood Meets Wall Street:” the emotional spark that led to Indiegogo 0:16:18 - The Golden Gate conversation where Slava asked, “Why not put this on the internet?“  0:28:16 - Building Indiegogo: mismatched personalities, big arguments, and the first 10 campaigns 0:35:42 - The 2008 crash hits: 93 investor rejections and many moments of truth 0:40:43 - Expanding beyond film: the inevitable pivot that ignited explosive growth 0:47:54 - Internal evolution: roles, titles, hires, and the first taste of real scale  0:53:46 - Why the founders eventually stepped away — and why some opportunities were squandered 0:59:09 - The legacy: how Indiegogo reshaped culture, creativity, and opportunity 1:03:34 - Bonus: Small Business Spotlight  This episode was produced by Katherine Sypher, with music by Ramtin Arablouei. It was edited by Neva Grant, with research help from Chris Maccini. Our engineers were Patrick Murray and Jimmy Keeley. Follow How I Built This: Instagram → @howibuiltthis X → @HowIBuiltThis Facebook → How I Built This Follow Guy Raz: Instagram → @guy.raz YouTube → guy_raz X → @guyraz Substack → guyraz.substack.com Website → guyraz.com See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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  • How much did you guys have to put in, the three of you, to get this off the ground?

  • I remember, do you remember this, Lava?

  • I remember each of us committing $30,000, which was a big Chuck of our savings.

  • Yeah, we got offered some money and we turned it down.

  • We were like, we don't need your money at a low valuation.

  • We had this genius idea.

  • In Q1, we were going to launch.

  • By Q2, we were going to have momentum.

  • And then we were going to raise money in Q3 2008.

  • The market crash happened in 2008.

  • And that idea went right out the window.

  • Welcome to How I Built This, a show about innovators,

  • entrepreneurs, idealists, and the stories behind the movements they built.

  • I'm Guy Roz, and on the show today, how three founders came together to build Indiegogo,

  • a platform where people can fund movies, music, games, devices, even a new baby.

  • crowdfunding art or public projects isn't new.

  • It dates back to at least the 1880s when tens of thousands of New Yorkers donated money to build the pedestal of a Statue of Liberty.

  • But a little more than a hundred years later,