Tom Friedman Says We’re in a New Epoch. David Brooks Has Questions.

汤姆·弗里德曼称我们正进入新时代。大卫·布鲁克斯有所疑问。

The Opinions

2025-12-12

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We’re living in a strange moment. According to the columnist Thomas L. Friedman, it’s a completely new era, called the Polycene — one in which everything moves faster and science, technology and politics are more connected than ever. The columnist David Brooks sits down with Friedman to make sense of what the modern world’s cascading crises mean for the future. Thoughts? Email us at theopinions@nytimes.com. This episode of “The Opinions” was produced by Derek Arthur. It was edited by Alison Bruzek and Kaari Pitkin. Mixing by Carole Sabouraud. Original music by Sonia Herrero and Carole Sabouraud. Fact-checking by Mary Marge Locker. Audience strategy by Shannon Busta and Kristina Samulewski. The director of Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser.
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  • This is Andrew Ross Sorkin, the founder of Dealbook.

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  • This is The Opinions, a show that brings you a mix of voices from New York Times' opinion.

  • You've heard the news.

  • Here's what to make of it.

  • My name is David Brooks.

  • I am a columnist at The New York Times.

  • I am joined by my friend and colleague Thomas L.

  • Friedman, who I will start calling Tom from here on out.

  • We've been working together for a long time.

  • Between us, we have three Pulitzer prizes.

  • Some would point out that Tom has all three, and I have never been nominated.

  • But when it comes to Pulitzers, I'm a socialist.

  • I believe in sharing them equally from each according to his abilities to each according to his needs.

  • So it's good to be with you in the Pulitzer category, Tom.

  • Always do.