2025-12-10
36 分钟This is Planet Money from NPR.
The other day,
I brought a couple pairs of binoculars to lower Manhattan to meet up with fashion reporter Avery Truffleman.
We were there to do a little bit of urban birding.
Are you a big birder?
I don't do outdoorsy things.
It's not in my nature.
I'm not an outdoorsy guy.
Luckily, Avery made an exception for us because we were not,
in fact, heading out to spot migratory birds with spectacular plumage.
No, no, no.
We were on the hunt for some very particular kinds of clothing.
Would it be fair to say that fashion is kind of your Roman Empire?
Yeah, I would say fashion is my Roman Empire.
You see, Avery is the host of a podcast called Articles of Interest,
which is all about unraveling the hidden histories behind the things we wear.
She's done deep dives into the question of why women's clothing didn't used to have pockets,
or how preppy Ivy League style got big in Japan.
And I wanted to talk to Avery
because her latest season is all about how a massive shadowy force has been shaping the stuff we all wear for the better part of the last century in ways that most of us might not know about.