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Paul, good to see and talk to you again.
Good to see you too, Martin.
So according to a new national security strategy document released by the White House last week,
I appear to be living on a continent that faces civilizational erasure.
I must say, it doesn't feel like that.
Yeah,
the same document says that we're going to help Europe correct its current trajectory by helping,
among other things, patriotic parties.
which I think basically means parties like Germany's AFD.
Well, the help that is being offered certainly makes me nervous.
So there's no question, there's a lot to break down in our discussion today.
So let's crack on.
Hello, I'm Martin Wolf, chief economics commentator at the Financial Times.
And I'm Paul Krugman, professor at the City University of New York,
and now an independent newsletter writer on Substack.