This is Andrew Ross Sorkin, the founder of Dealbook.
Every year, I interview some of the world's most influential leaders across politics,
culture, and business at the Dealbook Summit, a live event in New York City.
On this year's podcast, you'll hear my unfiltered conversations with Gavin Newsom,
the CEO of Palantir and Anthropic, and Erica Kirk, the widow of Charlie Kirk.
Listen to Dealbook Summit wherever you get your podcasts.
This is The Opinions, a show that brings you a mix of voices from New York Times opinion.
You've heard the news.
Here's what to make of it.
I'm Ariel Kaminer.
I'm an editor at New York Times Opinion.
My colleague, Masha Gassin, whom I have the good fortune to edit,
recently published a piece that explored how to be a good citizen when your country is doing things you think are immoral.
Masha reported their story in Israel.
Our colleague, Michelle Goldberg,
has been asking similar questions in her reporting here in the United States.
Masha and Michelle are here in the studio today.
Thank you both for joining me.
Hi, thanks for having us.
The people you both wrote about are not professional activists, they're just normal people.